
I'm about 50 pages into A World Made New: Eleanor Roosevelt and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, by Mary Ann Glendon (Random House 2001). Glendon is the Learned Hand law professor at Harvard University and has published books on family law, and human rights.
After World War II, as the United Nations prepared to set up new rules that would prevent another Nazi state from arising, one of the questions became what criteria could be used to intervene in another state's internal policies.
The UN's Charter says that, "'Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any State, or shall require the Members to submit such matters to settlement under the present Charter; but this principle shall not prejudice the application of enforcement measures under Chapter VII.' Chapter VII's exception to that principle, limited to situations where the Security Council determines that INTERNATIONAL [my emphasis] peace and security are threatened, could be controlled by any of the Big Five [America, Russia, Britain, China, and France], through their veto power" (19).
This bears directly on the right to intervene in Iraq. Apparently the UN could not go in there UNLESS they threatened another country. And thus, the claim of "weapons of mass destruction." This may be also what is at stake in Iranian and N. Korean nuclear aggrandizement. Purely internal problems are left to the authority of each state. Does it mean that the Nazis had the right to commit genocide against the Jews, as long as the Jews killed were all German citizens? Did Hussein have the right to gas Kurds, as long as they were Iraqi Kurds?
Hitler had actually used the right to intervene in foreign countries to help out those who were victims inside of it. Hitler had gone into Czechoslovakia "under pretext of championing the rights of their citizens" (20). He had said something about the Germans of the Sudetanland area, who were apparently being hinkmeistered by the Czechs.
"When is intervention in a country's internal affairs legitimate, and when not?" Glendon asks (20).
At what point does the UN have the right to send troops into Rwanda, Haiti, Kosovo, or East Timor, or Iran, Myanmar, or North Korea?
Something called the Genocide Convention of 1948 obligates all the signers of the UN to intervene (signed December 9, 1948). Genocide is defined as "any of a series of enumerated acts 'committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group, as such'" (243).
Certainly Hussein's destruction of the Iraqi Kurds would fit the "in part" designation. Kim Jong-Il's famines have resulted in millions of deaths, even if they aren't specifically targeted against a particular ethnic group. Is a leader really allowed to kill their own citizens as long as they do so in an even-handed way?
Myanmar's attempt to silence and destroy the Karen Christians in the SE of their country certainly fits the rubric of deliberate destruction of an ethnic and religious group (aboiut half of the Karens are Christian).
One could say the same thing about the Chinese attempt to destroy Tibet's culture and people (Tibetans are Buddhist, while the Chinese are Marxists).
American attempts in the 19th century to destroy various American Indian tribes, would also qualify (albeit belatedly).
Australian attempts to deracinate the aboriginals would qualify (again belatedly).
Every nation is based to some degree on its homogeneity. In America, we have many different groups, but we agree on certain principles such as agreeing to disagree. But many countries around the world have an annoying minority or two that they would just as soon wipe out. And so they proceed to do so. The UN's Charter says it must stop such occurrences.
And yet, the big five also have VETO POWER. Therefore, we cannot intervene in China, or in their immediate sphere (N. Korea, as well as Myanmar, are Chinese client states, as is Zimbabwe, and the Sudan). We can't help the Christians of the southern Sudan because the Chinese won't allow it. They are busy extracting minerals from the Sudan, and they don't want any interference with the government that is letting them do it. Same goes for Zimbabwe.
Countries on Russia's borders (such as Georgia and Chechnya) would also receive a veto if the UN were to attempt to enter.
Almost all nations have at one point or another squelched and destroyed prior nations or peoples within their borders. The French obliterated the Bretons, and forbade their language from being spoken (it's making a modest comeback). They did the same thing to the people who spoke Provencal and other languages in southern France. The Basques in Spain and in southern France would also qualify, and yet France also has veto power as one of the Big Five, and it was they who nixed the UN from entering into Iraq (they had a good deal with Hussein over oil, I vaguely recall).
Intervention is therefore a principle of the UN specifically in terms of the Genocide Convention, and yet, because the Big Five can also prevent intervention through its veto powers, it is unlikely that the UN can ever effectively intervene in any specific genocide unless it falls outside the sphere of influence of any of the Big Five. That's an increasingly small area, and also may be countries which are largely irrelevant as global players, such as Haiti (which I believe still has UN troops?).
Stalin was one of the Big Five, and his own exterminations, and enslavement, as well as forced deportations (enormous numbers of Russians forcibly moved into Estonia with little warning, famines in the Ukraine to weaken that polity, and the ongoing destruction of the Chechnyans are part of this legacy) could not be interdicted, especially during PEACETIME (many of the rules were limited to warfare).
The network of rules under which the UN works are still not well-known to most of us, and how the legality of the UN was created in the aftermath by countries which are now at one another's throat, must be recuperated. That's why I'm reading Glendon's book.
Could America have intervened in the Philippines to stop Imelda Marcos from buying so many shoes? Could the Philippines intervene in the US to stop Mrs. Obama from owning so many outfits?
Questions such as these are usually decided purely on military strength, but now increasingly we have attempted to put in place a universal system of ethics based on human rights, but even once we decide yes or no, there is still the military aspect, which frames the bottom line. The UN doesn't have its own troops, insofar as I know. They borrow troops from other nations. This makes the whole system unwieldy, and highly dependent on the willingness of its member nations.
19 comments:
Nokia is very popular in the Philippines.
Why?
What does "popular" mean in this sentence? Do you mean that you like the company, or the company is well-regarded in your circle, or that it is the most frequently used cellphone? What does the word "very" mean? And what does "in the" mean? Do you mean, as opposed to "in N. Korea"?
I found this to be quite gnomic.
Roughly 60% market share. The Finns have marketed their product here quite successfully and the market is large enough to sustain Nokia.
Seem to recall meeting a Sri Lankan once who visited Europe and was surprised to learn that the Lapplanders could understand her local dialect. Think the Malay languages of Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines also have marked similarities to Ceylonese.
workers of the world unite
at the level of exploitable work humans all have equal rights or should have
everyone should be able to be subjected to various degrees of slavery ablbeit compensated
perhaps it is a bit too much to ask that governments should be nice to people nice to guests nice to foreign prisoners
but i think the number one principle should be no one has the right to kill anyone
that means women do not have the right to terminate pregnancy nor do doctors nations do not have the right to enforce capital punishment at least not on foreigners
but then you are left with tha tendency for despotism
do other nations have the obligation to assist their neighbors who are the victims of tyranny
despots seem to rise to power on a wave of popularity a show of srength and that's what some people want they want these thugs in there to help push around others in the playground
i simpy think that eleanore roosevelt was a very pretty girl and i would have been tempted to ask her out on a date 110 yrs ago
of course she wouldn't've paid any attention to a catholic boy back then of this i'm sure
i guess i never knew that she too was born a roosevelt and married her sixth cousin
she worked the slums for awhile
what about an age group
can the universal declaration of HR
make a statement about the protection of an age group
i believe women set the standards
if they get to kill little healthy fetuses in the womb then i think anyone is at risk..there will be no peace with that violence around
maybe what is needed is a world securty council made up of very unserious idiots people with no emotional investment in anything other than terrible humor and some good humor too
when a war is threatening to break out bring in the circus
obama restated the universal declaration in his speech in cairo that was a daring speech did you know for instance that the major university for the training of zealous muslims is in cairo i think it was sort of ballsy if you know what i mean
maybe that's what we should do have a daily open forum where dignitaries and political people from other countries get to have a half hour on public video with being able to say anything they want to say about our country and we theirs and every country should follow that pattern of public openness to criticism...that would mean training up a pretty savvy diplomatic force but that would seem to me better than bullets
OK i know you're goin to say well these forums and these people already exist but i'm saying is that the forum is kept open by international decree so any visiting representative of any nation be they poet journalist political advisor prime minister adjutant business hack --one rule they have to be educated in oratorical skills --- they should have to be able to tell jokes etc
then any one gets to say anything
but it has to be said with class
i think the USA should say
we're out of tricks
we have no more means to deal with the world
we can only take care of ourselves for the next 5 yrs
we'll help where we can with human creativity
but everyone in the world is basically on their own starting in 2yrs
give everyone a window of preparation
i think it's time for muslims to consider becoming roman catholic
that's how far gone i am
j
I didn't realize that Obama invoked the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Can you say more?
If so, say more!
i too was struck
by eleanor roosevelt's beauty
in that photograph
what is her role in the book?
you didn't mention her at all kirby
ok
you do mention eleanor
in the next post
but i had skipped over that one at first
maybe you need to start every post
with a picture of a beautiful woman
obama was pretty adamant about the inherent desire for self rule for a vote for every intelligent person a way to have a stake in mappin out the future
he's big on that he's big on getting people to face up to human rights issues
he made the statement bold and into the camera
you can probably google the speech watch on Utube u tUbe u t ooobah
at any rate he stated it as a mandate for american foreign policy those nations pursuing forms of democracy will be our friends friends we want to help
any more and i'd be plagiaraizing
not that that's ever stopped me
peace on a frideay nite in lk woBgon
outta here
chillin
j
It's funny, Eleanor's own family thought of her as an ugmo, but she was very good-looking in her youth. She was called upon to help assemble the Universal Declaration of Human Rights at the age of 62. It's considered her most important accomplishment.
This book is the story of all the drafts and minor skirmishes between the many different players behind that document.
by the time she's 62, she's lost all of her beauty. She was the swan who became the ugly duckling, but it's not clear why this is so.
Maybe it was just poor grooming in late age, or something.
It depends on the type of face a bit, Kirby. Nurture plays a role, but there are simply some faces which retain their beauty better once the plumpness, smoothness, and tightness of youth fades.
Natalie Portman will always be naturally beautiful - Scarlett Johansson's gonna fade much more as she ages (unless high-tech trickery comes to her quasi-rescue). Too much of Scarlett's beauty is in the loveliness and youthfulness of her skin...Natalie's is much more based on bone structure.
so it goes!
Brett does have an officially handsome face. Everyone look at it.
Thanks Kirby!
The Delano side of Roosevelt's family was big in shipping. The president took his middle name from a great uncle, Thomas Delano, who was the captain of a vessel and a major partner in the shipping line that transported my dad's great great grandparents from London to New York. My current post and the one prior to it on my blog are about that shipping line and its owner, whose philanthropy broadly underwrote ministers on the abolitionist lecture trail prior to the Civil War.
Regarding Nokia, as a democratic reform the advent of inexpensive cell phones and a wireless network is second only to the mass literacy resulting from the educational reforms ushered in by America's Philippine colonial adventure in the first half of the 20th century. Landlines are still limited to only about 20% of the population. Cellphone saturation is approaching 80%.
Craig
I think you're right about cell phones. I was surprised at the number of cell phones I saw in Mongolia, (only in the capital city though), especially considering that I did not own a cell phone myself at that time.
Correction, Joseph Clement Delano, not Thomas, though there were several Delano brothers and a few cousins who were ship captains. Joseph spent his money on the first cotton mill in New England and his heirs still had money when wooden ships faded from engine of commerce into a recreational luxury.
Voice communication is for the idle rich. Texting is an expensive novelty in the U.S., but in Asia it's the primary mode of electronic communication. A voice call costs P15/minute, while a text message sells for less than a peso.
Is a peso the same as a penny?
Two cents on the peso.
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