
I have been driving since I was 14, but I rarely think about cars. It's not something that interests me. They are a vehicle to get me some place, and as such, I do not think about them in any lyrical way. A poem is also a vehicle, but I have greater expectations from poems. I want a smooth ride, but I also want to end up some place magical. With cars, I want to get to the store, and I want a bump-free ride, and I want the car to not break down every three weeks. Right now we have a Dodge Caravan from 1998. It's rusting through on both side doors, and the back door has a hole in it from where it rusted through. It bumps a bit more than I would like, but it's paid for, and so, every day we drive it, is a day we're not paying a monthly.
But lately it's been breaking down a bit more, and it now has 180,000 miles. Should I nurse it through another year, or should I call it a day?
My wife is on a mom-board, and put the question to them. Some of these moms are fairly well-heeled, but some are just scraping by like us. Some have lawyers and doctors for husbands. I am only a college professor. All the well-heeled moms insist that Honda Odyssey is the best car. Dodge Caravan is a "POS" in their terminology. But if we got another one, for say, 4000 or 5000 dollars, for one with less than 40,000 miles, and if we had good luck with it, it would be far cheaper than getting a 2005 Honda Odyssey, which seem to start at about 14,000 dollars. It means I'd have to put 9000 dollars into a Dodge Caravan before I even hit the starting line of buying a Honda Odyssey or a Toyota Siena, or what have you.
There is also the greater issue of whether or not to buy American. American cars, for whatever reason, are pretty crummy. But they are also relatively cheap, and the local garages know how to work on them (they see plenty of Dodge Caravans, and the parts are plentiful, and some people say these cars are steadily improving). Since we're not buying new, no matter what, does it even matter if we're buying a foreign car? It's like buying a used book. The royalties don't go to the author, they go to the bookseller. At any rate, what follows is a fairly long comment stream that my wife's question provoked. Basically, I want quality. Why it is that American factories produce garbage cans on wheels is not really my problem. Why it is that Japan, or at least Toyota, produces such good, durable vehicles, is also not my question. Although it is a question, it's not one that I intend to answer here, nor is it one that I think President Obama can answer. But unless that question is answered, it is obvious that the American automobile industry cannot turn around. At any rate, check out this comment stream. It is long, but there is an overwhelming consensus, based on my wife's question:
We're looking to buy a used minivan. DH has heard that Toyota Siena
is a great one, but wanted me to ask my "mom board" for experiences
and recommendations on what else to possibly look for. We're both
totally clueless! So, which minivans have a good reputation for being,
well, good? Thanks for any help!
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I think the most recommended as far as reliability and quality are
Honda, Toyota, and Nissan. They will be your most expensive choices,
too.
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Tomorrw we're going to look at Honda and Hyundai. We have a Toyota
Sienna and love it but the lease is up at the end of April.
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How used are you looking at? If it's in the recent few years, top
recommendations have been Toyota, Honda and Hyundai.
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Don't buy a Ford Windstar - biggest POS ever, not that I am bitter or anything
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Toyota, Honda, and Hyundai
I love my Sienna, it is our second one. We will probably get
something different in the next 2 yrs. My DH wants me to get a
Suburban since we will have 5 kids, and i do not mind driving them. I
just want to stick with a van since the suburban will not fit in the
garage.
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Love our Odyssey (that is, as much as I love driving a minivan).
We have had 2 and not had a single problem.
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I bought I used Sienna and love it!!
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We have a Toyota Sienna and love it.
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Amen sisters to not getting a Ford Windstar, ours was a piece of junk,
we also have a Dodge Caravan, and I would not recommend getting that
either....
We just bought a used Honda Odyssey and honestly other than a Sienna,
they just don't get better than that. Shop around, we got a loaded
Honda Odyssey that was a leased vehicle so all the scheduled
maintenance was done on it, it has leather, all the options and a DVD
player which my kids love, we got it for under 10,000...Toyota and
Honda are more, but in the long run I don't know ANYONE who has owned
a Honda that has had problems, my best friends' Honda is still running
at 300,00 miles if that tells you anything! Good luck!!!
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We have a Honda Odyssey and love it. This our second Honda, and I
won't own any other brand now.
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we have a Honbda Odyssey and love it! It is GREAT!
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Another vote for the Sienna!
We bought ours used, from a co-worker of mine, it's a 2000. It was
6ish years old then, with 80,000 miles. It's now 9 years old, with
125,000 miles, and I have NO complaints. The alarm on it just died
this week, so I will have to look into that. I'm very diligent about
oil changes, maintenance, and if something breaks, I get it fixed
quickly. I believe it's worth it to give the vehicle a longer life.
This was my first Toyota, and I'm leaning towards only buying Toyotas
from now on. My BFF has a Honda Odyssey, she got hers brand new, and
loves it!
And, another downer vote for the Ford Windstar. My co-worker bought
hers brand new several years ago, and lots of stuff died quickly on
it. She tells everyone that Ford does not stand behind their products,
and she'll never buy another Ford.
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I have a 2005 sienna and love it. I bought it when it was a year old
and that saved me over $12000. I wanted a certified one so that it
was covered should anything go wrong (I also bought an extended
warranty)... anyhow...I've had to do nothing but regular
maintenance. I bought it with 15k miles on it and now it has almost
60k.
My last three cars were toyotas too (paseo, camry, and 4runner). We
are big Honda and Toyota fans.
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We're on our second Dodge Grand Caravan and I love it! Dollar for
dollar it was the best we could afford in our locale. The foreign
vehicles were just too few and too much. The only reason we have a
2nd one already was the first was involved in an accident and the sun,
moon, and stars lined up for us to upgrade to much better w/o more
money.
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Odyssey fan here. Be sure to test drive them both. Odyssey drives
like a car. I also prefered the dash setup on the Odyssey. But we
love our Toyota too. DH has a 13 year old Camry that is still going
strong. Happy shopping!
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We had a Ford Winstar and it was 4 years old when we got rid of
it...it was going downhill quickly and it wasn't even at 60000 miles
yet. We traded it in for a Toyota Sienna and I LOVE it!!!!!!!!!!
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We love our Hyundai Entourage. I don't know why, but I have never seen
another one on the road. It has all the bells and whistles and was
significantly cheaper than a Sienna or Odyssey with few options. And
the service has been stellar. We may even get another Hyundai when we
replace DH's car next year.
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Yes, same goes for Dodge Caravan - huge POS, especially if you want to
drive your car for more than 2 years without major repairs.
If I were in the market; I'd go with a Honda Odyssey
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We are looking to get a minivan here too in the near future and we are
going to either get a Honda or Toyota. None of the others got very
good ratings for holding up long term. We are the type that keep our
cars until they basically fall apart because we hate having a car
payment so we need something very reliable.
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We've been Nissan buyers for years. 2 Xterras and the Quest. No
problems with any of them.
I agree though to not get the Ford Windstar or consider even the
Chryler Town & Country. Both are a POS and give off so many problems.
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Another Odyssey fan here. We love ours. I recommend the Honda or Toyoto
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We have a 2007 Honda Odyssey EX-L with dvd and love it! We test-drove
both the Odyssey and the Sienna and preferred the way the Odyssey
drove. I would totally get it again, it rocks.
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Love my Odyssey.
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WE love our Honda Odyssey. We test drove the Toyota and the Honda and
preferred the Honda. Good Luck
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Another Honda owner here. I love my Odyssey.
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my husband is an insurance agent and we researched vans a lot before
deciding. Wanted something reliable and with good crash testing. We
have a honda and a toyota....recommend both highly
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I thought the only minivan out there was the Honda Odyssey!
We're on our second, and will never have anything else. (And all our
cars before that were Hondas, too, so you could say we believe in the
brand!) We've also convinced 5, no 6! other family members/friends to
buy an Odyssey and every one of them says they'll never buy any other
brand.
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I have several friends who have Odessys and they all love them so I if
I were to get another van that would be what I would get.
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I have a 2004 Toyota Sienna....it has almost 100K miles on it and is
just now starting to nickel and dime us to death The A/C is beginning
to have issues and I guess this is a well known problem on some of the
earlier model (2004 & 2005) Siennas.
Otherwise it's been a great little van, no major mechanical problems
and very reliable!
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Last week, we bought a 2009 Honda Odyssey EX-L. I really like it!








