Thursday, March 18, 2010

No Name in Any Language

Is there some person, place, thing, action or state of being with no name in any language?

7 comments:

stu said...

Sure. There are uncountably many real numbers, but at most countably many names.

Kirby Olson said...

Aren't numbers names?

stu said...

Nope. It is possible to uniquely define some numbers, and the definitions can be said to constitute names for the numbers they define, but the definitions/names aren't the numbers. Numbers have a mathematical pre-existence in set theory that does not rely on them being nameable.

Kirby Olson said...

Do bees and ants have a mathematical dictionary in their heads that allows them to build in sided shapes, and to measure distances?

Kirby Olson said...

Do bees and ants perceive numbers as we do?

stu said...

Do bees and ants have a mathematical dictionary in their heads that allows them to build in sided shapes, and to measure distances?

They have something. A sense of angle and time in the case of bees. I don't know about ants. But I doubt it is anything like our sense of mathematics.

Kirby Olson said...

If math, like the ten commandments, are part of our hardware, then perhaps different species have some inkling of them, too. Or can grasp certain aspects.

Edward O. Wilson claims that ants and bees are the same bug, but bees have wings. They diverged a few million years ago.

If you look at a carpenter ant up close it has yellow stripes like the yellow stripes of a bee.

 
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